Check out the Same Jesus Podcast
We host conversations for the church in the midst of a noisy world, playing both sides against the middle, in pursuit of the One who is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
We’re uniquely Foursquare, tackling what it looks like to live out our faith in Jesus today. Whether we’re talking about our identity as Foursquare, tackling tough topics that sometimes divide, or just discussing current events and viewpoints, we want to be a voice for those in the middle. We hope you’ll join the conversation with us.
Meet the
hosts
A.J. Swoboda

A.J. Swoboda, Ph.D., is the assistant professor of Bible, Theology and World Christianity at Bushnell University. He has planted and pastored a Foursquare church in Portland called Theophilus that continues to worship to this day, as well as authored several books including his latest release, The Gift of Thorns: Jesus, the Flesh, and the War for Our Wants (Zondervan).
Russell Joyce

Russell Joyce, is the senior pastor of Faith Center, a Foursquare church located in Eugene, Ore. He is also the director of Foursquare Multiply, which seeks to train, network, and multiply the next generation of Foursquare churches across the U.S. He wrote the brand new book His Face Like Mine: Finding God’s Love in Our Wounds (IVP), releasing Summer 2024.
